SLIFF 2016 Interview: Rutger Hauer – Co-star of DRAWING HOME

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DRAWING HOME screens Thursday, Nov. 10 at 6:30pm at The Tivoli Theater as part of this year’s St. Louis International Film Festival. Ticket information can be found HERE. Lead actors Juan Riedinger and Julie Lynn Mortenson will be in attendance as well as producers Allan Neuwirth and Margarethe Baillou.

In 1920s Boston, East Coast debutante Catharine Robb (newcomer Julie Lynn Mortensen) is dating the most eligible bachelor in the world, John D. Rockefeller III. Her future seems set: a dream life in the upper echelons of society. But Catherine finds her careful plans upended when she meets a young painter, Peter Whyte (Juan Riedinger), from one of the most beautiful places on Earth, the Canadian Rocky Mountains. Although their worlds are polar opposites, a mutual love of art draws them together. They soon face a universal question: Can you find “home” in another person? Inspired by the true story of the central couple, “Drawing Home” features a cast that includes Kate Mulgrew (“Orange Is the New Black”), Emmy winner Peter Strauss (“Rich Man, Poor Man”), Kristin Griffith, and Wallace Shawn. The film was shot on location in Canada’s gorgeous Banff and Yoho National Parks.

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Also co-starring in DRAWING HOME is veteran actor Rutger Hauer, who has an international reputation for playing everything from romantic leads to action heroes to sinister villains. Hauer began his career in Dutch films, often collaborating with director Paul Verhoeven on films such as SPETTERS, THE SOLDIER OF ORANGE, and TURKISH DELIGHT. Hauer came to Hollywood in the early ’80s and has co-starred in many popular films including NIGHTHAWKS, BLADE RUNNER, THE HITCHER, LADYHAWKE, and HOBO WITH A SHOTGUN. In DRAWING HOME, Hauer plays wildlife artist Carl Rungius.

Rutger Hauer took the time to talk to We Are Movie Geeks about his career and his new film DRAWING HOME.

Interview conducted by Tom Stockman November 8th, 2016.

Tom Stockman: Have you seen the final cut of DRAWING HOME?

Rutger Hauer: Yes I have. I know it took them a while to finally get it edited, but I did see it and I was very impressed with it.

TS: What attracted you to the role of wildlife artist Carl Rungius? 

RH: The producer had called me and asked me if I wanted to work on this film. I Skyped the director Markus Rupprecht and read the script and I thought this character was very strong. I liked the script and I thought I could do something with it   He was a first-time director and he was wonderful to work with. Everybody was. It was an easy decision to make.

TS: Did you enjoy filming up there in the Canadian Rockies?

RH: Yes, it’s beautiful there. You can’t describe the Canadian Rockies in just a few words.

TS: Was it cold?

RH: Very cold. Crispy.

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TS: Had you filmed in that part of the world before?

RH: I’ve been there. I’ve mostly been up there to ski though. I participated once in a VIP skiing race right there in Banff, but I’ve never filmed a movie in that part of the world.

TS: Did you do a lot of research on this artist Carl Rungian before you played him?

RH: Not really. I just took the script and the director and I talked about what he needed from me and I followed his hand. And that was enough. I did look at some books of paintings done by him but we didn’t have a lot of prep time. I saw a picture of him and I mentioned to somebody that it would be great if I could wear a coat similar to what he was wearing in that photo. They had the coat on the set the next day.

TS: Do you enjoy playing real life characters?

RH: Absolutely. It doesn’t get better than playing someone with a real history.

TS: Let’s talk about the scene near the end of the film where your character looks at the camera and recites a poem. I interviewed producers Allan Neuwirth and Margarethe Baillou and they said that you had written that poem.

RH: Yes, it was after I finished filming my scenes. I had been looking for a poem by an American Indian. I found a good one and tried to connect with the writer of this poem, but could never get a response from him. I decided to write a poem myself that expressed some of the same things. After I filmed, I went to the set to say goodbye to everyone, and I mentioned to the producers that I had written this poem. They asked if they could film me reciting it, so that’s what they did. It made sense being in the film and it was nice that it ended up in the final version.

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TS: It does fit right in. Were you surprised that it ended up in the final film?

RH: Very surprised.

TS: Have you ever played a poet in a film?

RH: No, I’ve played artists before but never a poet. I do love poetry and now and then I like to write my own.

TS: Some of your dialogue in BLADE RUNNER is somewhat poetic. Did you write any of your own dialogue for that film?

RH: Just one line, but it’s the one line that so many remember.

TS: “All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain”. That’s yours isn’t it?

RH: Yes. I’m so glad that so many people are able to recite that.

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Rutger Hauer in BLADE RUNNER

TS: Have you ever been to St. Louis before?

RH: No, I haven’t really been to the Midwest or southern part of the United States. I’ve never even been to Texas or New Orleans. There are so many places I would like to visit. St. Louis is still on my list.

TS: One of the other films that is playing at the St. Louis international film for festival is Paul Verhoeven’s new film ELLE Have you seen that?

RH: Oh wonderful. No, I have not seen that yet. I’m very curious and I’m dying to see it. I’ve heard good things about it.

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Rutger Hauer in Paul Verhoeven’s FLESH + BLOOD

TS: You collaborated with the director Paul Verhoeven on Dutch films several times early in your career but you haven’t worked with him since FLESH + BLOOD in 1986. Would you like to work with him again?

RH: Yes, we’re both trying to make that work. We both want to.

TS: What is the Dutch film industry like today?

RH: We have a fund that comes from the government that works for filmmakers trying to get their start. They are making some films there. I will say, even though I am Dutch, I don’t think they travel very well. Filmmakers struggle with the fact that if it’s not Dutch enough, they won’t get the money to make it. I’m fighting them on that, hoping that they will open up a bit. We need to go out into the world with our films.

TS: When you were growing up in the Netherlands, was it easy for you to see American films?

RH: Yes it was.

TS: Did you have some favorite American movie stars when you were young?

RH: Yes, I really admired Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis and Kirk Douglas. I was a big fan of Marlon Brando. When I was very young, I was a big fan of Audie Murphy, who mostly did war movies. There were also a lot of French movies that played in the Netherlands at that time. It was nice. There was always a lot of movies for me to see growing up.

TS: You have directed a couple of short films. Have you ever had the desire to direct a feature yourself?

RH: Yes. We’re working on a script now that I hope to put in production and direct myself next year. It’s a good script. I think we’re really going to go somewhere with it.

TS: That sounds interesting. What genre will this film be?

RH: I’d call it a thriller. A psychological thriller.

TS: I’ve read that they are currently filming the sequel to BLADE RUNNER. Were you approached to be involved in that project?

RH: No I was not.

 TS: Is that something you would like to have done?

RH: No. You have to be kind though. You really just can’t say yes or no to anything that you haven’t read. I don’t know what they’re going to do with this new BLADE RUNNER. I’m certainly curious, but I’ll just have to wait and see. I don’t know what to think of it really.

TS: What’s next for Rutger Hauer?

RH: I Don’t know yet. I’ve got some projects in the works, but I’m not filming anything right now. Everything is still above ground.

TS: Very good. Well I really enjoyed your performance in DRAWING HOME, and I’ve enjoyed you in so many films over the decades. Good luck with all of your future projects.

RH: Thanks a lot. I’ve enjoyed talking to you

SLIFF 2016 Giveaway – Win Free Tickets to the U.S. Premiere of DRAWING HOME

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DRAWING HOME screens Thursday, Nov. 10 at 6:30pm at The Tivoli Theater as part of this year’s St. Louis International Film Festival. Lead actors Juan Riedinger and Julie Lynn Mortenson will be in attendance as well as producers Allan Neuwirth and Margarethe Baillou.

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You can win a pair of tickets to the screening Thursday night! We Are Movie Geeks has 5 pairs of tickets to give away. Just leave you first and last name in the comments section below. I’ll notify you Tuesday afternoon if your name will be on the list at the door to get in free. Good luck!

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Read my interview with DRAWING HOME producers Allan Neuwirth and Margarethe Baillou HERE

In 1920s Boston, East Coast debutante Catharine Robb (newcomer Julie Lynn Mortensen) is dating the most eligible bachelor in the world, John D. Rockefeller III. Her future seems set: a dream life in the upper echelons of society. But Catherine finds her careful plans upended when she meets a young painter, Peter Whyte (Juan Riedinger), from one of the most beautiful places on Earth, the Canadian Rocky Mountains. Although their worlds are polar opposites, a mutual love of art draws them together. They soon face a universal question: Can you find “home” in another person? Inspired by the true story of the central couple, “Drawing Home” features a cast that includes Kate Mulgrew (“Orange Is the New Black”), Emmy winner Peter Strauss (“Rich Man, Poor Man”), Kristin Griffith, Rutger Hauer, and Wallace Shawn. The film was shot on location in Canada’s gorgeous Banff and Yoho National Parks.

SLIFF 2016 Interview: Margarethe Baillou and Allan Neuwirth – Producers of DRAWING HOME

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DRAWING HOME screens Thursday, Nov. 10 at 6:30pm at The Tivoli Theater as part of this year’s St. Louis International Film Festival. Ticket information can be found HERE. Lead actors Juan Riedinger and Julie Lynn Mortenson will be in attendance as well as producers Allan Neuwirth and Margarethe Baillou.

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In 1920s Boston, East Coast debutante Catharine Robb (newcomer Julie Lynn Mortensen) is dating the most eligible bachelor in the world, John D. Rockefeller III. Her future seems set: a dream life in the upper echelons of society. But Catherine finds her careful plans upended when she meets a young painter, Peter Whyte (Juan Riedinger), from one of the most beautiful places on Earth, the Canadian Rocky Mountains. Although their worlds are polar opposites, a mutual love of art draws them together. They soon face a universal question: Can you find “home” in another person? Inspired by the true story of the central couple, “Drawing Home” features a cast that includes Kate Mulgrew (“Orange Is the New Black”), Emmy winner Peter Strauss (“Rich Man, Poor Man”), Kristin Griffith, Rutger Hauer, and Wallace Shawn. The film was shot on location in Canada’s gorgeous Banff and Yoho National Parks.

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Producers Allan Neuwirth and Margarethe Baillou took the time to talk to We Are Movie Geeks about DRAWING HOME

Interview conducted by Tom Stockman October 20th, 2016

Tom Stockman: Congratulations on your film. You’re both coming to the screening at the St. Louis international film Festival on November 10. Have you been to St. Louis before?

Margarethe Baillou: I have.

Allan Neuwirth: It will be my first trip there and I’m looking forward to it.

TS: I think your film DRAWING HOME will be well-received here. It’s a Canadian story. Are you both Canadian?

MB: No, I am German and Allen is an American. I’ve spent a lot of time in Canada. I think we deserve the key to Canada.

TS: Your film is the story of Peter and Catherine Whyte who I had never heard of. Are they famous in Canada?

MB: They aren’t as famous as they deserve to be and there are a couple of reasons for that. For one, they are deceased and they didn’t have any children so there was no legacy besides the extended family of the artwork. Their artwork is so good and and even arts specialists rank their work alongside some of the very best painters, The fact that she came from money means that they were never required to sell their art. Though they lived a humble life, the invisible luxury was that they could just paint for themselves. They would give their paintings to friends or family or they would just keep them in storage. Even the museum they built was not for their own artwork. Funny enough, they never became famous or established in the art world or the cultural world in Canada. It’s like pigs finding the truffle on foreign soil. We are introducing them to most Canadians themselves.

AN: They are well known in the Canadian Rockies. They were co-founders of the town of Banff, so they’re known in that part of the world. There’s going to be a traveling exhibition of their paintings, and our film will be traveling with it, so they will soon be better known than they have been.

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TS: Was the film shot there in the Canadian Rockies?

MB: Yes, the story takes place there and was shot there. One of the most important locations was their actual home, which is now part of the Whyte Museum. We were allowed to use that after 50 years, allowed to go in there and film there. It was a very special thing and one of the authentic aspects of the movie.

AN: Another tidbit is that filmmakers use that part of the world very often to represent other locations. We are one of the very few films to shoot in Banff, that part of Alberta, for a story that actually took place there. They shot BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN up there, but we weren’t doubling for Wyoming or Colorado.

TS: Was the Skoki ski lodge a location? 

MB: Yes it was. We needed to shoot there in the middle of winter and there’s no way to get up there aside from hiking there for many hours through thick snow so we were airlifted up there.

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TS: Was it cold filming there?

MB: Yes it was cold. And when we got off the helicopter we sank knee-deep into the snow. It took a half an hour to walk 10 steps but we burned a lot of calories.

AN: You’ll notice there were a lot of snowy scenes in the film.

TS: Right. Did that present a lot of challenges for the crew?

AN: Yes, there was one time where we encountered a blizzard that actually halted shooting for a while then we decided to incorporate that into the film. It was never supposed to be that snowy in the story, But it was a very happy accident.

MB: We were filming cheek to cheek with THE BOURNE LEGACY. They had an enormous budget and crew that could afford to wait out the blizzard. We were in the opposite situation so we ran in and captured the blizzard. The crew was 100% Canadian so I really have to credit them.  They were such troopers. And real crafts-people, they really loved their jobs.  They embraced the story and were so proud to help to tell this Canadian story, even though the film is an American film. It was so cold, but they didn’t complain. They gave it their everything. That was quite extraordinary.

TS: What was the budget on the phone?

AN: It was a low budget film, under 3 million but it looks like we spent closer to 15.

TS: It does. What helps is a couple of shots where you see dozens and dozens of vintage 1920s cars and vintage buildings. Was some of that CGI enhanced?

AN:  Most of what you see on the screen is authentic in terms of vintage cars and vintage costuming. But there is some CGI. Things just don’t look that way in Banff anymore.  We needed to go back in time and the best way to do that was CGI, and I think we did that pretty effectively.

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TS: The director Markus Rupprecht is a German and this is his directorial debut. How did he get the job directing DRAWING HOME?

MB: He was a friend of mine from Germany. He had never been to North America before this project. He’s a very talented artist. One reason I offered it to him was that I felt this true story needed a combination of new faces for the leads and cultural newcomers, because I myself am a cultural outsider who wanted to tell the story. It’s often the case, in real life as well as filmmaking, that cultural outsider will see more. Sometimes people who live with it don’t take notice because it’s so familiar to them so I figured it would make sense to bring another outsider to look at the story in an almost scientific way, Gathering all the bits and pieces, And then getting gradually emotionally involved and creating his own perspective.  I think it paid off well. It would have been a different experience if we had hired a Canadian or American director. Markus really looked at the story in a way no North American would have.

TS: The lead actress Julie Lynn Mortensen is Canadian. At the end of the film you show some actual photos of Catharine Whyte and the actress really resembles her, doesn’t she?

MB: Yes they both do, Juan Riedinger who played Peter not only was one Canadian, but he was born and grew up just blocks from where Peter Whyte lived. Julie is from Calgary but she had spent an enormous amount of time in the Rockies. So they are both from there which is one of the main reasons why we connected with them aside from their acting abilities. We needed actors who shared the mentality of those people. These were fictional characters we were trying to bring to life. They were real and we wanted to honor them and we wanted to be respectful of their legacy. We wanted newcomers because it is a true story and we wanted that element of authenticity. We didn’t want a famous actress to detract from the real person whose story we were telling. We wanted to surround them with veteran actors that the audience is familiar with.

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TS: How long was Rutger Hauer on the set?

AN: He was with us for about a week and a half.

TS: What was he like?

AN: He’s a lovely guy and he had an amazingly wonderful time. There’s something intimidating about him at first because he’s had such an incredible, storied career, but once you get to know him, he is a remarkable man and a very sweet guy. When we had finished shooting all of his scenes, he stuck around a bit longer. He approached us one morning and said that he had an idea that he wanted to incorporate into the film and wondered if we would shoot it. He told us that he had written a poem that he wanted to deliver on camera. We were working with some of the First Nation tribes there and he wanted to speak to the chief and learn some authentic words. We shot it thinking maybe it would end up in the DVD as an extra, but we ended up using it in the film, when he gives that eulogy at the end. He wrote that.

TS: It’s a great scene, and the movie looks gorgeous. The cinematographer Patrick McLaughlin does a great job.

AN: Yes, it’s a movie to be seen on the big screen.

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TS: How has your film been received so far? Have you shown it at many film festivals?

AN:  It’s making its world premiere first at Banff. At the Banff Mountain Book and Film Festival. We had a private screening in Argentina at an art museum and they loved it to. The lead Juan Riedinger is half Peruvian. It will be making its U.S. premier there at the St. Louis international film Festival.  The few people that have seen it have responded very well so far.

TS: What are your plans for the film after the festival circuit? 

MB: We don’t have plans yet. We’re trying to strategize right now. It’s so complex when moviemaking part is all done. There is interest in foreign markets. Right now all of that is being mapped out, but there is no official release date yet.

TS: Good luck with DRAWING HOME and I hope you enjoy your visit to St. Louis.

AN: Thank you, I’m sure we will.

MB: Thank you.

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