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February 8, 2021

WAMG Interview: Davy Rothbart – Director of 17 BLOCKS

Filed under: Interview — Tags: , — Tom Stockman @ 11:48 am

17 BLOCKS will have a national release on Feb. 19th, and will be virtual theatrical in more than 100 cities, through MTV Documentary Films and partner organizations Everytown for Gun Safety and Black Lives Matter D.C.

In 1999, 9-year-old Emmanuel Sanford-Durant and his Washington, D.C., family began to film their daily lives in America’s most dangerous neighborhood — just 17 blocks behind the U.S. Capitol building. They’ve been filming ever since. Made in a unique collaboration with filmmaker and journalist Davy Rothbart — author, editor of Found magazine, and director of “Medora,” 17 BLOCKS focuses on four generations of the Sanford Family, including Emmanuel, a promising student; his brother, Smurf, a local drug dealer; his sister, Denice, an aspiring cop; and his mother, Cheryl, who must conquer her own demons for her family to prosper. Spanning two decades, “17 Blocks” illuminates a nation’s ongoing crisis through one family’s raw, stirring, and deeply personal saga. The Hollywood Reporter writes: “The ironic title of Davy Rothbart’s ‘17 Blocks’ refers to the distance between the U.S. Capitol and the Washington, D.C., neighborhood where the family at its center resides. It’s not a long distance geographically, but it might as well be worlds away, judging by the harsh realities of the daily lives so powerfully chronicled in the documentary, which received its world premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival.”

Davy Rothbart took the time to talk too We Are Movie Geeks about 17 BLOCKS and the Sanford family, who are at the film’s center

Tom Stockman: Have you taken 17 BLOCKS to many film festivals? 

Davy Rothbart: Yes, we started it at Tribeca in New York and it’s played it a number of other fests. I haven’t been able to attend as many as I’d like. Members of the Sanford family have gone to some of the fests, and I have gone to some.  And there have been some where we have gone together. 

TS: Who shot this footage in 17 BLOCKS? 

DR: It was a combination of me and the Sanford family. Some of the most recent footage my friend Zach shot, but 90% of it was shot either by me or a member of the Sanford family.  Emmanuel Sanford  shot some of the footage when he was just nine years old back in 1999. 

TS: That’s what I thought. That’s what makes it such an unusual documentary. How did you get involved with this family? 

DR: It was a real collaboration.  I met Emmanuel and his brother Smurf, who was 15 in 1999, on a basketball court   We hit it off and Smurf invited me over for dinner one night after we finished playing. That’s when I met their mother Cheryl and their sister Denise. The way Cheryl likes to put it is that the family adopted me. It really did feel that way. Here I was in DC, far from home in my early 20s.

TS: What were you doing in DC? 

DR: A friend of mine had gotten a job on Capitol Hill  with a congressional staffer.  He thought the cultural atmosphere of DC was rather lame, so he invited me, an aspiring writer at the time, to come and live out there rent-free and just sleep on his couch. He lived nine blocks from the Capitol building. The Sanford family lived 17 blocks behind the capital building.

TS: Tell me about this neighborhood that the Sanford’s were living in. 

DR: It was called at the time one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country.  here was an incredible article in The Atlantic the same year called ‘Notes on the Murders of 30 of My Neighbors’  that was about how prevalent gun violence was. The Sanfords had lived all over the DC area, previously in a neighborhood more southeast called the Anacostia neighborhood. It was really striking as most families in that neighborhood we’re just trying to get by, people like Cheryl and her kids. You could look up from almost any street corner and see the Capitol dome,  so this neighborhood, which was dealing with serious poverty, was literally in the shadow of the capital.  I had just bought my first video camera when I met the family and I was interested in filmmaking. It was nothing fancy, just a consumer brand camcorder.  I learned to use the camera at the same time Emmanuel and Smurf and Denise did, because they took an interest in it. I always had my camera around, but I would leave it with them sometimes at night and on the weekends. We would roam around and film stuff together. I would interview them and they would interview me. When I would leave the camera there and come back, they would show me all the footage they had shot. It was obviously very raw  and personal. Emmanuel had, I think, a real poetic guy eye and the stuff he would film was so interesting and we continued to film together for 20 years.  But everything changed the night there was a death in the Sanford family. The first 10 years it was essentially home videos. There was no plan really. The night of the death, I was back here in Michigan. When I got there the next day, Cheryl asked me where the video camera was. I was unsure what she meant but she said it was such a common story with kids from this neighborhood. So many friends of hers in that neighborhood had lost kids in this way and that the difference this time was that none of their lives had been documented so thoroughly.  She wanted to film all of this. She knew what the family was going through and was about to go through. She was in pain and suffering but she thought people really needed to understand what was going on.  Throughout this project, Cheryl has really been the vision for the film. She’s so brave to be so often open and honest about her journey.

TS: Yes, but she does not come off totally sympathetic in your film. 

DR: Definitely, especially for the first 3/4 of it  but when you have a bit more context later on in the film, you understand her a little better. She always said that substance abuse is ugly and that people need to see it. She’s the one who wanted to be filmed abusing drugs. Most people would never ask to have themselves portrayed in these vulnerable and even unlikable moments.  But I think you still see all of the love that the family has for each other.  20 years later, they are all still living together. It’s pretty remarkable. 

TS: Did the Sanford family rent this house or did they own it? 

DR: They were renters. It’s mostly all rental apartments in that neighborhood. Cheryl‘s father had owned a house which is where she grew up so her family lived there for a little while after her dad passed. 

TS: Is this neighborhood 17 blocks from the capital building become somewhat gentrified over the years? 

DR: Yes, totally but there are still pockets, other nearby neighborhoods just 10 to 12 blocks from the capital, that are bad. There is a neighborhood called Potomac Gardens that the Sanfords lived in for a while where there is still much crime and poverty.  So one neighborhood might gentrify while the next one still has problems. But the Sanfords neighborhood is getting a bit safer and there is more of a police presence, but the rent has risen so much that many people can’t afford to live there. 

TS: In your film you visit the house as it currently stands, and it’s almost unrecognizable. There’s a guy living there who has obviously cleaned it up and rehabbed it, put in new floors and such. When the Sanfords lived there, I was struck by just how much trash was strewn all over the place.

DR: Yes, I think that guy gutted and renovated it. 

TS: He was nice to let you guys come in and film.  How many hours of footage did you have to work with? 

DR: About 1000. It was a three-year editing process. We were lucky enough to work with an editor named Jennifer Tiexiera.  She’s talented and was so devoted.

TS: How has your film been received at film festivals? 

DR: It’s been amazing and moving to us. It was a 20-year journey and the story means so much to us. It means a lot personally. We are excited about using 17 BLOCKS as a tool for change and want to show it to organizations like Black Lives Matter and the ACLU and gun safety advocates. We have a national release coming. We are going to be partnering with these organizations and others. Cheryl always said that there was just a statistic with all of these people getting killed in major cities, but when you get one victim and really get to know him, you connect with the issue. During the closing credits there is a list of 1200 names of gun violence victims just in the DC area. You could make a documentary just about any one of those people. It’s been an honor to be at the festivals with the family. We won ‘Best Documentary’ at the Woodstock Film Festival and we have been to Telluride Colorado . We won an award at Tribeca. It’s great just to play it for audiences but it means a lot to the Sanford family to win these awards and for people to see what a special story it is. 

TS: It’s a very dramatic story. You could almost see it as a narrative, with these two brothers who are so very different.  With this tragedy in the middle of the story, you could almost see it being adapted into some sort of narrative screenplay. 

DR: Yes, I totally see that. In the right hands, I could see it being extremely powerful. 

TS: What about Smurf? Has he kept clean? 

  DR: Smurf is doing awesome. Just this month he was promoted to manager at the deli that you see him working at in the film.  Both of his sons made the honor roll at their schools this year and he’s a big part of their lives. Smurf was so lucky to have that judge on his drug case. She understood his potential. I think that was a rare outcome. Most judges would have tossed him in jail. I’d like for Law schools and young judges and prosecutors to see this film, just to give them a look at the human side of the people that come in front of them every day and to see what’s possible when people get another chance.

This interview was originally conducted when 17 BLOCKS screened at the St. Louis International Film Festival in 2019

November 7, 2019

SLIFF 2019 Interview: Davy Rothbart – Director of 17 BLOCKS

Filed under: Interview — Tags: , — Tom Stockman @ 5:50 pm

17 BLOCKS will screen at The Missouri History Museum (5700 Lindell Blvd) Saturday, Nov 9 at 7:00pm as part of this year’s St. Louis International Film Festival. Director Davy Rothbart will be in attendance and will host a post-screening Q&A. This is a FREE event

In 1999, 9-year-old Emmanuel Sanford-Durant and his Washington, D.C., family began to film their daily lives in America’s most dangerous neighborhood — just 17 blocks behind the U.S. Capitol building. They’ve been filming ever since. Made in a unique collaboration with filmmaker and journalist Davy Rothbart — author, editor of Found magazine, and director of “Medora,” which played SLIFF in 2013 — the film focuses on four generations of the Sanford Family, including Emmanuel, a promising student; his brother, Smurf, a local drug dealer; his sister, Denice, an aspiring cop; and his mother, Cheryl, who must conquer her own demons for her family to prosper. Spanning two decades, “17 Blocks” illuminates a nation’s ongoing crisis through one family’s raw, stirring, and deeply personal saga. The Hollywood Reporter writes: “The ironic title of Davy Rothbart’s ‘17 Blocks’ refers to the distance between the U.S. Capitol and the Washington, D.C., neighborhood where the family at its center resides. It’s not a long distance geographically, but it might as well be worlds away, judging by the harsh realities of the daily lives so powerfully chronicled in the documentary, which recently received its world premiere at the Tribeca Film Festival.”

Davy Rothbart took the time to talk too We Are Movie Geeks about 17 BLOCKS and the Sanford family, who are at the film’s center

Interview conducted by Tom Stockman November 11th, 2019

Tom Stockman: 17 BLOCKS is your film and it’s screening this Saturday at 7 PM here at The Missouri History Museum as part of the St. Louis international film Festival. Will you be here? 

Davy Rothbart: Yes. I’m really excited about that. That’s a beautiful venue. I really appreciate that they’ve made the screening a free one. It’s a project that the Sanford family and I are passionate about and we want to share it as widely as we can.  It’s nice not to have that barrier for some people, since film fest tickets can be so expensive and that eliminates the pool who of who can come and see it.  I want this film to be for everybody.  

TS: Have you taken it to other film festivals? 

DR: Yes, we started it at Tribeca in New York and it’s played it a number of other fests. I haven’t been able to attend as many as I’d like. Members of the Sanford family have gone to some of the fests, and I have gone to some.  And there have been some where we have gone together. 

TS: Who shot this footage in 17 BLOCKS? 

DR: It was a combination of me and the Sanford family. Some of the most recent footage my friend Zach shot, but 90% of it was shot either by me or a member of the Sanford family.  Emmanuel Sanford  shot some of the footage when he was just nine years old back in 1999. 

TS: That’s what I thought. That’s what makes it such an unusual documentary. How did you get involved with this family? 

DR: It was a real collaboration.  I met Emmanuel and his brother Smurf, who was 15 in 1999, on a basketball court   We hit it off and Smurf invited me over for dinner one night after we finished playing. That’s when I met their mother Cheryl and their sister Denise. The way Cheryl likes to put it is that the family adopted me. It really did feel that way. Here I was in DC, far from home in my early 20s.

TS: What were you doing in DC? 

DR: A friend of mine had gotten a job on Capitol Hill  with a congressional staffer.  He thought the cultural atmosphere of DC was rather lame, so he invited me, an aspiring writer at the time, to come and live out there rent-free and just sleep on his couch. He lived nine blocks from the Capitol building. The Sanford family lived 17 blocks behind the capital building.

TS: Tell me about this neighborhood that the Sanford’s were living in. 

DR: It was called at the time one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country.  here was an incredible article in The Atlantic the same year called ‘Notes on the Murders of 30 of My Neighbors’  that was about how prevalent gun violence was. The Sanfords had lived all over the DC area, previously in a neighborhood more southeast called the Anacostia neighborhood. It was really striking as most families in that neighborhood we’re just trying to get by, people like Cheryl and her kids. You could look up from almost any street corner and see the Capitol dome,  so this neighborhood, which was dealing with serious poverty, was literally in the shadow of the capital.  I had just bought my first video camera when I met the family and I was interested in filmmaking. It was nothing fancy, just a consumer brand camcorder.  I learned to use the camera at the same time Emmanuel and Smurf and Denise did, because they took an interest in it. I always had my camera around, but I would leave it with them sometimes at night and on the weekends. We would roam around and film stuff together. I would interview them and they would interview me. When I would leave the camera there and come back, they would show me all the footage they had shot. It was obviously very raw  and personal. Emmanuel had, I think, a real poetic guy eye and the stuff he would film was so interesting and we continued to film together for 20 years.  But everything changed the night there was a death in the Sanford family. The first 10 years it was essentially home videos. There was no plan really. The night of the death, I was back here in Michigan. When I got there the next day, Cheryl asked me where the video camera was. I was unsure what she meant but she said it was such a common story with kids from this neighborhood. So many friends of hers in that neighborhood had lost kids in this way and that the difference this time was that none of their lives had been documented so thoroughly.  She wanted to film all of this. She knew what the family was going through and was about to go through. She was in pain and suffering but she thought people really needed to understand what was going on.  Throughout this project, Cheryl has really been the vision for the film. She’s so brave to be so often open and honest about her journey.

TS: Yes, but she does not come off totally sympathetic in your film. 

DR: Definitely, especially for the first 3/4 of it  but when you have a bit more context later on in the film, you understand her a little better. She always said that substance abuse is ugly and that people need to see it. She’s the one who wanted to be filmed abusing drugs. Most people would never ask to have themselves portrayed in these vulnerable and even unlikable moments.  But I think you still see all of the love that the family has for each other.  20 years later, they are all still living together. It’s pretty remarkable. 

TS: Did the Sanford family rent this house or did they own it? 

DR: They were renters. It’s mostly all rental apartments in that neighborhood. Cheryl‘s father had owned a house which is where she grew up so her family lived there for a little while after her dad passed. 

TS: Is this neighborhood 17 blocks from the capital building become somewhat gentrified over the years? 

DR: Yes, totally but there are still pockets, other nearby neighborhoods just 10 to 12 blocks from the capital, that are bad. There is a neighborhood called Potomac Gardens that the Sanfords lived in for a while where there is still much crime and poverty.  So one neighborhood might gentrify while the next one still has problems. But the Sanfords neighborhood is getting a bit safer and there is more of a police presence, but the rent has risen so much that many people can’t afford to live there. 

TS: In your film you visit the house as it currently stands, and it’s almost unrecognizable. There’s a guy living there who has obviously cleaned it up and rehabbed it, put in new floors and such. When the Sanfords lived there, I was struck by just how much trash was strewn all over the place.

DR: Yes, I think that guy gutted and renovated it. 

TS: He was nice to let you guys come in and film.  How many hours of footage did you have to work with? 

DR: About 1000. It was a three-year editing process. We were lucky enough to work with an editor named Jennifer Tiexiera.  She’s talented and was so devoted.

TS: How has your film been received at film festivals? 

DR: It’s been amazing and moving to us. It was a 20-year journey and the story means so much to us. It means a lot personally. We are excited about using 17 BLOCKS as a tool for change and want to show it to organizations like Black Lives Matter and the ACLU and gun safety advocates. We have a national release coming out next year. We are going to be partnering with these organizations and others. Cheryl always said that there was just a statistic with all of these people getting killed in major cities, but when you get one victim and really get to know him, you connect with the issue. During the closing credits there is a list of 1200 names of gun violence victims just in the DC area. You could make a documentary just about any one of those people. It’s been an honor to be at the festivals with the family. We won ‘Best Documentary’ at the Woodstock Film Festival and we have been to Telluride Colorado . We won an award at Tribeca. It’s great just to play it for audiences but it means a lot to the Sanford family to win these awards and for people to see what a special story it is. 

TS: It’s a very dramatic story. You could almost see it as a narrative, with these two brothers who are so very different.  With this tragedy in the middle of the story, you could almost see it being adapted into some sort of narrative screenplay. 

DR: Yes, I totally see that. In the right hands, I could see it being extremely powerful. 

TS: What about Smurf? Has he kept clean? 

  DR: Smurf is doing awesome. Just this month he was promoted to manager at the deli that you see him working at in the film.  Both of his sons made the honor roll at their schools this year and he’s a big part of their lives. Smurf was so lucky to have that judge on his drug case. She understood his potential. I think that was a rare outcome. Most judges would have tossed him in jail. I’d like for Law schools and young judges and prosecutors to see this film, just to give them a look at the human side of the people that come in front of them every day and to see what’s possible when people get another chance.

June 24, 2009

WAMG Interviews Kyle, Brian & Kel from ‘Easier With Practice’

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During my time attending the 2009 CineVegas Film Festival, I managed to get some time to sit down with director Kyle Patrick Alvarez and stars Brian Geraghty and Kel O’Neill of ‘Easier With Practice‘. One of the best films of the festival, we talk about their experience, their inspiration and what went on during the making of this fine film.

I want to apologize for the shakiness of the video. Due to technical difficulties with our HD camera, we had to rely on our emergency backup Flip Mino camera to shoot the interview. Otherwise, enjoy!

June 8, 2009

CineVegas Review: ‘Easier With Practice’

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For many, the act of finding and then retaining a meaningful relationship is easy. It comes naturally to these people, for some it occurs once and lasts forever and for many more it occurs over and over, with varying levels of success. Then you have that group of deserving individuals who just don’t have that ingrained knack for making the romantic bonds between two human beings work for them. The formula for getting from point A to point B with an intimate relationship eludes these people and they find themselves feeling like outsiders, even though they yearn for the same connection as everyone else on the inside.

‘Easier With Practice’ is a wonderful little film written and directed by Kyle Patrick Alvarez, based on a GQ article by Davy Rothbart. Brian Geraghty plays Davy Mitchell, a writer who works as a temp to pay the bills. Davy and his brother Sean (Kel O’Neill) set out on a book tour across the country together in Sean’s old POS station wagon to promote Davy’s book. During their journey from town to town, Sean spends his free time in the bars and picking up chicks while Davy, exhausted from the weeks of traveling and living off of PB&J sandwiches, spends most of his free time in hotel rooms, bored and lonely.

Davy is one of those individuals unable to make that romantic formula work. He struggles with this, seeing this come so easily to his brother, but at the same time frustrated with him for taking that gift for granted. During one of their stops, Davy receives a phone call on the hotel room phone from a mysterious woman. Davy believes this call to be a wrong number at first, but the woman aggressively forces her sexuality upon Davy, who finds himself strangely drawn to her advances. After a relatively “successful” first call, Davy and the woman named Nicole choose to continue their intimate phone relationship throughout the book tour.

The heart of ‘Easier With Practice’ lies within Davy’s longing for the type of relationship that has eluded him his whole life. Davy sees the the signals from interested parties but lacks the ability to move on them. Davy and Nicole maintain a healthy phone sex relationship, but it also develops into a more intimate and personal friendship as well. Davy’s life seems to be turning around for him, until he asks to meet Nicole and she refuses. She prefers this type of arrangement with Davy, and for a while Davy feels the same. With time, however, Davy feels this relationship could never truly be real unless they can physically be together, but is Davy truly ready to match a face and body to the voice he has come to hold so close?

‘Easier With Practice’ embraces that uncomfortable feeling of self-inflicted loneliness. The film perfectly captures Davy’s unrealized passion for a partner he has not yet met, building on his expectations, should the day he and Nicole meet ever occur. Davy attempts to keep his relationship with Nicole a secret, concerned that he feel ashamed of the fact, which only fuels his insistence on meeting her. Once home from his trip, Nicole stops calling and Davy truly realizes how much his virtual time with Nicole has affected him and his life as he shuts himself off from the world, hoping Nicole reconnects with him.

The entire film was shot on the new RED ONE digital technology and it shows. The atmosphere of the film is moody and slightly tarnished, but the camera manages to pick up on and elaborate an incredible amount of detail and the color palette is at once drab and alluring. ‘Easier With Practice’ leads the viewer down a slower, more methodical path of revelation that allows for Davy to reflect on the direction of his life. Slow and boring, however is not an appropriate way to describe the film.

As an audience, we really get to know Davy and we empathize with his heavy heart and longing. One of my favorite visual themes in the film is the use of isolation to convey Davy’s feeling of the same. The film was shot in New Mexico, a state with vast stretches of barren landscape, easy to isolate one’s self while at the same time surrounded by immense natural beauty. It’s a metaphor for Davy’s situation, isolated but still surrounded by so much beauty.

If the visual acuity and attention to the cinematic conveyance of feeling was great, the incorporation of indie music into the film’s landscape was down right brilliant. Kyle Patrick Alvarez is said to be quite the indie music enthusiast and it shows, having meticulously selected and placed an absolutely perfect soundtrack into his film. The songs were carefully chosen and used not just to fill silent space, but to accentuate a scene or emotion and further move the story along in a constructive fashion. The soundtrack to ‘Easier With Practice’ reads like a pop fans worst nightmare, featuring indie musicians and bands unknown to many like Emily Easterly, Source Victoria, Deer Tick and Grizzly Bear, not to mention the other 10 or more bands with licenced music featured on the theatrical playlist.

I have to admit, ‘Easier With Practice’ has a bit of an advantage from the start as it’s the type of indie film that I’m really enthusiastic about. With that said, the film still had to impress me and I can honestly say I am impressed, even more so after researching the making of the film and learning that Alvarez managed to put together such a great film in so little time and seemingly without a hitch. If there’s one movie that will premiere this year and deserve the attention of audiences on a massive scale, ‘Easier With Practice’ is definitely ranked highly amongst the candidates.

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