What Might Have Saved TERMINATOR: DARK FATE

Arnold Schwarzenegger and Linda Hamilton star in Skydance Productions and Paramount Pictures’ “TERMINATOR: DARK FATE.”

By Marc Butterfield

What might have been an extraordinary movie died a dud. Terminator: Dark Fate collapsed under it’s own weight, after months of hype, and millions of dollars. Probably more than one career ended with this movie. I’m not being dramatic, that bomb had some stink on it.

Official Synopsis: More than two decades have passed since Sarah Connor prevented Judgment Day, changed the future, and re-wrote the fate of the human race. Dani Ramos (Natalia Reyes) is living a simple life in Mexico City with her brother (Diego Boneta) and father when a highly advanced and deadly new Terminator – a Rev-9 (Gabriel Luna) – travels back through time to hunt and kill her. Dani’s survival depends on her joining forces with two warriors: Grace (Mackenzie Davis), an enhanced super-soldier from the future, and a battle-hardened Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton). As the Rev-9 ruthlessly destroys everything and everyone in its path on the hunt for Dani, the three are led to a T-800 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) from Sarah’s past that may be their last best hope.

Don’t get me wrong, I liked it. I liked director Tim Miller’s film as an action movie, because it had some truly memorable scenes, and it had a great pace. I think if a couple of things were edited, it might even have done way better at the box office. Let’s be clear though; it probably wouldn’t have saved the movie, just made it a bit less of a failure.

The assumption that there was an appetite for one more sequel in a 35 year old franchise might have been a stretch. The story was played out, each one being about the survival of a one John Connor. The LAST sequel he was killed off and turned in to a robot duplicate, and one more time, Skynet was thwarted, this time destroyed (or again… I forget how many times this Company has been obliterated). Bluntly, that pissed off the fans. At the moment of supreme victory, JC was assimilated into Skynet, making the future uncertain. (again). Queue loudly screaming fans calling B.S. on this one.

And yet, what did Cameron learn? Apparently nothing. Read on, but beware, there are spoilers ahead, but the movie has been out long enough that anyone who wanted to see it has seen it, and everyone knows the twist. Within a couple of minutes of the movie, we are treated to a young John Connor (the movie takes place a few weeks after Terminator II: Judgment Day) going up to a bar to order himself and his mother some refreshments, Sarah smiling and feeling like for the first time in years, she and John can feel safe and know that they have their whole lives ahead of them, when a Terminator walks up and KILLS john. Shoots him dead. Bang. Having done the deed, the Terminator strolls away, it’s purpose fulfilled. I’m shocked that they didn’t have him whistling a happy tune. Sarah is devastated. BOOM!

Now, if you’re a fan of the franchise, you now know two things that made this movie a “thing” was that John had to be kept ALIVE, and the SKYNET was the bad A. I. sending Terminators to kill him, with Sarah being the badass dragon-mom being the only thing stopping a future where most of the population are dead, and the machines rule the planet, with nothing to do but upgrade themselves and kill human stragglers. This one scene made allllll of the other Terminator movies moot. We learn later that Skynet isn’t at the root of current termators, but rather “Legion” (because THAT name hasn’t been overused to death yet, right?). I won’t go on about too much of the rest of the movie, because honestly, I enjoyed it. The change of who must be saved, the way the robot join to be more effective, the tools used to destroy them…all of that was fun, inventive, and exciting.

Having Schwarzenegger’s Terminator now be an old dude who owns a interior decorating company added humor in an otherwise dead-serious movie, and was, well, in a word, ridiculous, but even that wasn’t as stupid as killing off Connor. Seriously, had they edited out the assassination of Connor scene, edited out “Legion” back to Skynet, and maybe had the sense to make Arnold’s bot into more of a “man without a cause after the fall of Skynet”, they at least wouldn’t have lost the fan base. Even the political message, which was there, but murky, wouldn’t have made a difference.

This isn’t the first franchise to die under the weight of a mountain of bad decisions, and I’m sure it’s not the last. But that James Cameron attached his name to this turkey is surprising. He gave this monster life, and it almost feels like he wanted to kill it once and for all.

Linda Hamilton, left, and Arnold Schwarzenegger star in Skydance Productions and Paramount Pictures’ “TERMINATOR: DARK FATE.”

Win Free Passes To The St. Louis Advance Screening Of TERMINATOR: DARK FATE

More than two decades have passed since Sarah Connor prevented Judgment Day, changed the future, and re-wrote the fate of the human race. Dani Ramos (Natalia Reyes) is living a simple life in Mexico City with her brother (Diego Boneta) and father when a highly advanced and deadly new Terminator – a Rev-9 (Gabriel Luna) – travels back through time to hunt and kill her. Dani’s survival depends on her joining forces with two warriors: Grace (Mackenzie Davis), an enhanced super-soldier from the future, and a battle-hardened Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton). As the Rev-9 ruthlessly destroys everything and everyone in its path on the hunt for Dani, the three are led to a T-800 (Arnold Schwarzenegger) from Sarah’s past that may be their last best hope.

The film opens in theaters on November 1.

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Answer the Following:

In the original 1984 classic THE TERMINATOR, when Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese first meet, she asks:

Sarah Connor : Did you see this war?

Kyle Reese : No. I grew up after. In the ruins… starving… hiding from H-K’s.

Sarah Connor : H-K’s?

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Linda Hamilton, left, and Arnold Schwarzenegger star in Skydance Productions and Paramount Pictures’ “TERMINATOR: DARK FATE.”

Celebrate Judgment Day, August 29, 1997, With Our Top 10 Favorite Scenes From TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY

“Three billion human lives ended on August 29, 1997. The survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against the Machines.” – Sarah Connor

Celebrated by fans of the TERMINATOR movie franchise, today marks the anniversary of Judgment Day. Described by both Sarah Connor and the T-800, Judgment Day occured on August 29, 1997. Skynet became self-aware at 02:14 am Eastern Time and launched nuclear missiles at Russia to incite a counterattack against the humans who, in a panic, tried to disconnect it.

The newest chapter of the popular series TERMINATOR: DARK FATE hits cinemas this fall on November 1, 2019. Here’s a message from Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Linda Hamilton (“Sarah Connor”) and Arnold Schwarzenegger (“T-800”) return in their iconic roles in Terminator: Dark Fate, directed by Tim Miller (Deadpool) and produced by visionary filmmaker James Cameron and David Ellison. Following the events of Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Terminator: Dark Fate also stars Mackenzie Davis, Natalia Reyes, Gabriel Luna, and Diego Boneta.

In the meantime, as we wait for the new movie (November can’t get here soon enough), grab your copy of TERMINATOR 2 tonight and check out the Top 10 scenes from T2: JUDGMENT DAY.

And on a sidenote, T2 was nominated for 6 Oscars and won four for Makeup, Sound, Sound Editing and Visual Effects.

The iconic, foreboding score is from composer Brad Fiedel – there’s no Terminator without, “duhn duhn duhn duhn duhn”.

  1. The Final Goodbye – The Boy and his Dad/Cyborg theme had both us and Edward Furlong crying at the end of the film. Thumbs up, man!
  2. Cyberdine Shootout – The editing of this scene by Conrad Buff, Mark Goldblatt and Richard A. Harris, along with the cinematography of Adam Greenberg, is one of the best in film history – no wonder they received Academy Award nominations.
  3. The arm scene – The reveal of the exoskeleton to Dr. Dyson and the look on his face of the monster he would create, and the billions killed, is both sobering and chilling.
  4. Hasta La Vista, Baby – The great chemistry between Furlong and Schwarzenegger made for an amusing exchange and this one liner is still an indelible quote in the franchise.
  5. Come With Me If You Want To Live – Best. Line. EVER!
  6. The Phonecall – “Hey Janelle, what’s wrong with Wolfie… I can hear him barking. Is he okay?” And exit John’s foster parents.
  7. The Hunt Is On – The infamous canal scene done with real stunt drivers and minimal CGI. One of our favorites from the film.
  8. The Mall ShootoutIt is still a scary chase scene through the Galleria Mall with Robert Patrick’s T-1000 trying to destroy Edward Furlong’s “John Connor” as Arnold tells him to “Get Down!”
  9. The Return of Sarah Connor“Good Morning Dr. Silberman. How’s the knee?” Sarah went from a frightened waitress in the original film to a BADASS warrior!
  10. He’s Back Two words. Arnold and Schwarzenegger. The bar sequence and the line, ” I need your clothes, boots and motorcycle,” is still hilarious and a terrific way for the T-800 to enter the film.

Hear what Director Tim Miller’s favorite scene is from the franchise.

Listen as Linda Hamilton explains her role as Sarah Connor.

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Natalia Reyes talks about the Terminator films.

Diego Boneta shares his first memory of Terminator.

Contributed by Michelle Hannett and Melissa Thompson

TERMINATOR: DARK FATE Teaser Poster Features Linda Hamilton

“WELCOME TO THE DAY AFTER JUDGMENT DAY” Oh this is all kinds of awesome!

Here’s a first look at the poster for TERMINATOR: DARK FATE. The brand new trailer drops on Thursday morning – 6AM PT/9AM ET. As a huge fan of the franchise, I can’t wait for the new film this fall!

Starring Linda Hamilton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mackenzie Davis, Natalia Reyes, Gabriel Luna, and Diego Boneta, TERMINATOR: DARK FATE is directed by Tim Miller (DEADPOOL) and produced by James Cameron.

Check out this video from two years ago where Cameron and Miller talked about the upcoming film.

Even Arnold let the fans know of the new trailer hitting tomorrow morning!

Synopsis:

Linda Hamilton (“Sarah Connor”) and Arnold Schwarzenegger (“T-800”) return in their iconic roles in Terminator: Dark Fate, directed by Tim Miller (Deadpool) and produced by visionary filmmaker James Cameron and David Ellison. Following the events of Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Terminator: Dark Fate also stars Mackenzie Davis, Natalia Reyes, Gabriel Luna, and Diego Boneta.

The film will open in theatres November 1, 2019.

Linda Hamilton stars in Skydance Productions and Paramount Pictures’ “TERMINATOR: DARK FATE.”
Arnold Schwarzenegger stars in Skydance Productions and Paramount Pictures’ “TERMINATOR: DARK FATE.”
Gabriel Luna stars in Skydance Productions and Paramount Pictures’ “TERMINATOR: DARK FATE.”